Some Golden Garbage for the needy!
Unlearn this... There is no such thing as 'moment' - 'meaning' is your
brain's pattern recognition and nothing more. Questions like 'Who am I?', Why am I here for? What
is life?' - there is no 'I' (where is it even when you are sleeping and
what a living brain knows of death or its own shutdown
- has it ever attempted it? Or is it even capable of it? Or does such a possibility of mind shutting down itself exists?), there is no reason for 'you' to be here
as it implies 'I'; life, like thoughts, is but garbage created as a by
product. So do not be a lettered person of Gitas and sustras - you read
them only to throw them away. If you do not recognize the grammar (or
like it) there is no point in the letters. Instead of all that highfi
stuff focus on what happen in sleep (a good starting point), the
limitation of an organic brain, the difference between the chemical and
neural pattern recognizers (what is being repeatedly called as
intelligence). Do not talk about things that can not be "construed"
easily in a normal 'living' brain (like atma, paramatma, etc. etc. -
they are just but names except may be for a countable few [hope!!!]).
Violence and corruption verily are natural in a society of beings that starts and lives its life by killing other living beings - your body is a
death house of millions of lives. The grains you eat!!! ha - you only
should see how each cell of the grain is torn and blown apart by your bodily cells in
stealing what the grain cells have painstakingly stored for their own propagation.
And these bodily cells keep your brain cells alive, which keeps going
in random paths that you call 'thoughts' that are usually unworthy of so
many living beings life! Generally the talk is about humans alone or
(sic) a society of them! Isn't that imperious to other life forms and the
universe as such...? The usual modality is: First 'I', then 'you' and
then ‘society’ (even there, classes! as society implies it), then
'humans' - in that order!(?) - where in this list will
something so absolute that keeps popping up now and then come in? The
only truth is in the seeking and not anything beyond it. But the act of
seeking needs a goal and hence the many ways, like the many parables.
Like the snake and the rope, the presence of "I" excludes all else - and the 'all else' can be there only when "I" is not there. Without the "I" to
whom the "all else" matters? Cyclic, catch 22 and what not. When someone
tells you about the ultimate in half a line, let the mind see it as a rare gift!
Take Gayathri for instance. boor buva suvaha (night, firelight and sunlight -meaning in the sleeping state, dream state and waking state), tat sa viturvarenyam burgodevasya demahi (all the world/universe light giving gifted [mahimai - cannot find a good word for translation] one) meaning the light/center/background/focal (in our mind) that makes it possible to perceive the universe and all the things in it (by our mind - like the saying, 'throwing light on a subject') deyoyona prasodayadu (that mind, brighten it up) meaning enlighten that mind. This is still only a near enough translation providing an intended meaning (I still could not yet get 100% accurate one after all these years of musing it), but the author is so good in playing with light and the different words for it and that itself is baffling (even just as a verse). The first level kind of interpretation is like praying to the sun god, etc. etc. But at a different level (note that I did not concoct some arbitrary and out-of-world meaning for the words as they usually do in this side of the world - but by careful identification of similar words/roots in the current languages to provide a hint on to the meaning of the words used - even though I am not a linguist, I have a good flair for the root sounds and what they generally mean), the author asks /the center of consciousness in our mind /or the crux /or the one closely resembling it/ as the light thrower - meaning essentially the driver of the working mind (whatever it is), as light again, now using it akin to illumination (devasya - the shining one). He uses again light as in enlightenment. And does he pray to something/someone outside? No. he is asking the mind or its crux (which is not the mind - law of entangled systems; a system that includes, or that can describe itself, will have contradictions (Godel?). So a mind that knows itself is contradictory and a fine working mind does not know anything about its own working) to brighten itself. Wow! kudos to that mind that came up with this single line. Unlike Zen, which relies on contradictions to get out of the system, this tells us that harmony between the crux (out of system) and the mind (system) could also be a way to get out of the system...
Well, it is a mess above with all the parenthesis for a line of verse. Without that braces, the centrality (central thought) of the each line will be lost. Best way is to first ignore the braces and read only the bold font - and again re-read with the braces. Do kick me if it any of this makes any sense!
Do read about the 'commonality of understanding' stuff. Those great minds living among the monkeys (do we now live among apes?) have no way to pass on their own recognized patterns (knowledge?) to the other minds around, except in the way the other minds worked. In a village full of naked entities there is a need to be naked to learn harmony and to be another entity among them - but then being among them means that only nakedness and nothing beyond is all that can be offered. An mind is a set of ideas - an huge ocean of patterns, an idea a set of words - a large sea of patterns, and a word is a lager set of patterns; and what is more, the existing patterns decide how a new input is pattern-ised. So knowing something does not always mean that it can be conveyed - and the knowing of pattern far ahead of time; ahead of the ripe time for the overall set of beings to recognize and cognize the pattern can often happen and had happened like in those verses or in zen koans.
Take Gayathri for instance. boor buva suvaha (night, firelight and sunlight -meaning in the sleeping state, dream state and waking state), tat sa viturvarenyam burgodevasya demahi (all the world/universe light giving gifted [mahimai - cannot find a good word for translation] one) meaning the light/center/background/focal (in our mind) that makes it possible to perceive the universe and all the things in it (by our mind - like the saying, 'throwing light on a subject') deyoyona prasodayadu (that mind, brighten it up) meaning enlighten that mind. This is still only a near enough translation providing an intended meaning (I still could not yet get 100% accurate one after all these years of musing it), but the author is so good in playing with light and the different words for it and that itself is baffling (even just as a verse). The first level kind of interpretation is like praying to the sun god, etc. etc. But at a different level (note that I did not concoct some arbitrary and out-of-world meaning for the words as they usually do in this side of the world - but by careful identification of similar words/roots in the current languages to provide a hint on to the meaning of the words used - even though I am not a linguist, I have a good flair for the root sounds and what they generally mean), the author asks /the center of consciousness in our mind /or the crux /or the one closely resembling it/ as the light thrower - meaning essentially the driver of the working mind (whatever it is), as light again, now using it akin to illumination (devasya - the shining one). He uses again light as in enlightenment. And does he pray to something/someone outside? No. he is asking the mind or its crux (which is not the mind - law of entangled systems; a system that includes, or that can describe itself, will have contradictions (Godel?). So a mind that knows itself is contradictory and a fine working mind does not know anything about its own working) to brighten itself. Wow! kudos to that mind that came up with this single line. Unlike Zen, which relies on contradictions to get out of the system, this tells us that harmony between the crux (out of system) and the mind (system) could also be a way to get out of the system...
Well, it is a mess above with all the parenthesis for a line of verse. Without that braces, the centrality (central thought) of the each line will be lost. Best way is to first ignore the braces and read only the bold font - and again re-read with the braces. Do kick me if it any of this makes any sense!
Do read about the 'commonality of understanding' stuff. Those great minds living among the monkeys (do we now live among apes?) have no way to pass on their own recognized patterns (knowledge?) to the other minds around, except in the way the other minds worked. In a village full of naked entities there is a need to be naked to learn harmony and to be another entity among them - but then being among them means that only nakedness and nothing beyond is all that can be offered. An mind is a set of ideas - an huge ocean of patterns, an idea a set of words - a large sea of patterns, and a word is a lager set of patterns; and what is more, the existing patterns decide how a new input is pattern-ised. So knowing something does not always mean that it can be conveyed - and the knowing of pattern far ahead of time; ahead of the ripe time for the overall set of beings to recognize and cognize the pattern can often happen and had happened like in those verses or in zen koans.
